Legislature(2001 - 2002)

04/29/2002 03:20 PM House L&C

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SB 274-PHYSICIANS' LOCUM TENENS PERMITS                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MURKOWSKI announced that the  first order of business would                                                               
be CS FOR SENATE BILL NO.  274(L&C), "An Act relating to issuance                                                               
of  a locum  tenens  permit  for a  physician  or osteopath;  and                                                               
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Number 0158                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HALCRO   moved  to  adopt   Version  22-LS1393\L,                                                               
Lauterbach, 4/29/02,  as the  working document.   There  being no                                                               
objection,  Version L was before the committee.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MURKOWSKI  reminded committee  members  that  at the  last                                                               
hearing of  CSSB 274(L&C)  there was concern  with regard  to the                                                               
language in  Section 2  requiring that  the locum  tenens permits                                                               
"shall" be extended  for an additional 60 days.   The language in                                                               
Section 2 has been  expanded in Version L so that  it says:  "the                                                           
board  may  refuse  to  grant  a  license  under  AS  08.64.240".                                                           
Version L also  adds paragraphs (2)-(4) under Section  3 in order                                                               
to provide  greater public safety  by specifying the items  to be                                                               
obtained in a background check.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Number 0325                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
JEFF  BULLOCH, Alaska  State  Medical  Association, informed  the                                                               
committee that  representatives from  the association  spoke with                                                               
the sponsor and  suggested that on page 2, line  10, the language                                                               
"or  its designee"  be deleted.    Therefore, a  denial would  go                                                           
before  the full  board where  due  process would  occur and  the                                                               
person being denied would be allowed to be present.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MURKOWSKI asked  if the  sponsor is  comfortable with  the                                                               
amendments encompassed in Version L.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Number 0399                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DONNY  OLSON, Alaska State  Legislature, speaking  as the                                                               
sponsor  of SB  274, said  that he  agreed with  the majority  of                                                               
Version  L.   However, the  [focus] of  the bill  is directed  at                                                               
rural  Alaska where  there have  been difficulties  obtaining and                                                               
holding replacement physicians.   With regard to  the language on                                                               
page 2,  line 10,  Senator Olson  expressed concern  with denials                                                               
for extensions.   Therefore, he  suggested that the  language "or                                                           
its designee"  be deleted from page  2, line 10.   In response to                                                           
Representative Halcro, Senator Olson  specified that normally the                                                               
designee is the executive director.   Deleting the aforementioned                                                               
language would move away from personality difficulties.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MURKOWSKI pointed  out that the language  "or its designee"                                                           
is also  found on  line 17 of  page 2.   Therefore, she  asked if                                                               
Senator Olson  would like the  language deleted in  that location                                                               
as well.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR OLSON answered, "Not at this point."                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MURKOWSKI directed  attention to  page 2,  line 26,  which                                                               
requires a "completed  application form and the  fee required for                                                               
licensure under  this chapter."   She recalled  that at  the last                                                               
hearing there was  discussion regarding at what  point should the                                                               
locum tenens physician obtain licensure  in Alaska versus relying                                                               
on the  locum tenens permit.   She asked if the  language on page                                                               
2, line 26, is acceptable.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR OLSON  said that he  agrees that those staying  in Alaska                                                               
indefinitely  or permanently  should  have  a permanent  license.                                                               
However, there are exceptions.   For instance, there may be cases                                                               
in  which individuals  may have  difficulties  obtaining a  fully                                                               
certified diploma.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Number 0920                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ROKEBERG asked if the  language on page 2, line 26                                                               
was part of the amendment he made at the last hearing.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MURKOWSKI  replied yes.   She recalled  that Representative                                                               
Rokeberg  had requested  that  references  to various  background                                                               
checks should  be included.   The clearance report from  the U.S.                                                               
Drug  Enforcement Administration  (DEA)  was  added because  [the                                                               
Division of  Occupational Licensing]  sent an e-mail  saying that                                                               
it  [wasn't   mentioned  because  the  representative   from  the                                                               
division didn't  think of it at  the time].  In  further response                                                               
to Representative  Rokeberg, Chair Murkowski said  that her notes                                                               
reflect discussion  of [inserting] the  language on page  2, line                                                               
26.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ROKEBERG  remarked that  paragraph (4)  forces the                                                               
[locum tenens permit holder] to make the application.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MURKOWSKI said that her  notes reflect that [the committee]                                                               
wanted  to encourage  full-time active  licensure after  180 days                                                               
[in state on a locum tenens permit].                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ROKEBERG  pointed out  that  there  is a  240-day                                                               
limitation now, which  [with the language in Version  L] seems to                                                               
exceed the 240-day limitation.   If one wanted a 30-day extension                                                               
beyond the 240 days, then the  individual would have to apply for                                                               
licensure.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MURKOWSKI said she believes that is correct.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ROKEBERG remarked  that he  wasn't sure  why that                                                               
would be done.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR OLSON commented that if a  person is in the state for 240                                                               
days and requests an extension,  then the individual should apply                                                               
for full licensure.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ROKEBERG  questioned whether  paragraphs  (1)-(3)                                                               
are necessary if [paragraph (4)] is included.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MURKOWSKI reminded  everyone  that [at  the last  hearing]                                                               
there was discussion  of an individual who  had been [practicing]                                                               
in the state  for almost 240 days and the  individual had decided                                                               
to  practice in  Alaska.   However, the  individual was  going to                                                               
miss a window  for application and would not be  able to practice                                                               
[while  obtaining  full  licensure]   without  the  inclusion  of                                                               
Section  3.     Chair  Murkowski  recalled   that  Representative                                                               
Rokeberg  had wanted  to  ensure that  the  necessary checks  had                                                               
occurred if indefinite extensions were going to be allowed.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ROKEBERG agreed.   He said that  if subsection (f)                                                               
is limited to what Chair  Murkowski described, then that would be                                                               
acceptable so long as the sponsor viewed it as acceptable.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  OLSON said  that he  didn't  have a  problem with  that.                                                               
However, he  suggested checking with  the executive  director [of                                                               
ASMA] or someone  from the Division of  Occupational Licensing in                                                               
order to be sure that there isn't something he is unaware of.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. BULLOCH related  that after reviewing the CS,  ASMA felt that                                                               
Section 3 was fine.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Number 1300                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HALCRO  moved that  the committee  adopt Amendment                                                               
1, which reads as follows:                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 10,                                                                                                           
     Delete "or its designee"                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ROKEBERG  objected.  He  pointed out that  on page                                                               
1, line  5, the  legislation refers  to a  "member of  the board"                                                               
whereas Section 2  (e) refers to "the board", which  he viewed as                                                           
problematic.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HALCRO  pointed out  that because  the legislation                                                               
outlines  that  only  the  board  can  grant  a  request  for  an                                                               
extension.  He  related his belief that only the  board should be                                                               
allowed  to   grant  a   temporary  permit.     In   response  to                                                               
Representative  Meyer, Representative  Halcro confirmed  that the                                                               
language "executive secretary"  on page 1, line 5,  would have to                                                               
be deleted.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MURKOWSKI reminded  the  committee that  there  was a  due                                                               
process concern in that  if there was going to be  a denial of an                                                               
extension, then the  individual who made the  request should have                                                               
the  opportunity to  present to  the  board the  reasons why  the                                                               
permit  should be  continued.   That  concern  was the  reasoning                                                               
behind deleting  "or its designee",  she explained.   In response                                                           
to Representative  Rokeberg, Chair  Murkowski confirmed  that the                                                               
board or  its designee  could make the  initial extension.   Only                                                               
upon denial was due process a concern.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ROKEBERG maintained  his objection.   He  related                                                               
his understanding that the initial  permit under Sections 1 and 2                                                               
can  be granted  by the  board,  a member  of the  board, or  its                                                               
executive secretary.  The 60-day  extension can be granted by the                                                               
board or its  designee.  However, only the board  can hand down a                                                               
refusal to grant an extension.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HALCRO   asked  if  there  is   any  due  process                                                               
protecting an individual who is denied an initial permit.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  OLSON  related  his understanding  that  denial  of  [an                                                               
initial permit  application] can be  taken to the full  board for                                                               
reconsideration.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MURKOWSKI  surmised  then  that  this  language  would  be                                                               
consistent with what's currently in  statute.  She specified that                                                               
the intent  is to provide due  process when there is  denial of a                                                               
permit during any  point in the process.  She  explained that the                                                               
board can  deny an extension but  a designee of the  board cannot                                                               
because denial of  the permit gets into  the previously discussed                                                               
issue of due process.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HALCRO, in response  to comments by Representative                                                               
Rokeberg,   explained   that   Amendment  1   accomplishes   what                                                               
Representative Rokeberg  wants because only the  board can refuse                                                               
to  grant a  request  for an  extension.   Once  one  is given  a                                                               
license and  returns for renewal  or extension, the board  or its                                                               
designee  can grant  the  extension.   However,  if the  designee                                                               
denies  the extension  request,  then the  due  process is  going                                                               
before the board at its next meeting.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ROKEBERG disagreed.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Number 1905                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CATHERINE REARDON, Director,  Division of Occupational Licensing,                                                               
Department  of Community  & Economic  Development, testified  via                                                               
teleconference.   Ms.  Reardon explained  that  the Alaska  State                                                               
Medical  Board and  the Division  of  Occupational Licensing  are                                                               
under  the  Administrative  Procedures   Act.    Therefore,  both                                                               
entities are required  to provide the right to  appeal or contest                                                               
a board action.   A denial of a permit,  license, or right always                                                               
triggers the right to appeal.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ROKEBERG asked  if the  [locum tenens  physician]                                                               
would be allowed to practice pending the appeal.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS.  REARDON  said the  [locum  tenens  physician] would  not  be                                                               
allowed to practice pending the  appeal if the initial permit had                                                               
expired.   In  further response  to Representative  Rokeberg, Ms.                                                               
Reardon explained  that the appeal  would be to the  board, which                                                               
almost  always  delegates  the  actual  hearing  to  the  hearing                                                               
officer and  considers the  hearing officer's  proposed decision.                                                               
Although the board has the option  of hearing the case, it rarely                                                               
does so.  Ms.  Reardon turned to Sections 2 and  3 of [Version L]                                                               
and stressed  that two  different types  of extensions  are being                                                               
addressed.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ROKEBERG pointed out that  Section 3 refers to the                                                               
essential  medical services  extension.   Representative Rokeberg                                                               
questioned why  the language "or  its designee" would need  to be                                                           
deleted on  page 2, line  10, when  there is already  a statutory                                                               
right of appeal to the board.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MURKOWSKI related  her understanding  that leaving  in the                                                               
aforementioned language would place  the designee in the position                                                               
of granting  or denying  a permit,  although the  permittee would                                                               
have the right to appeal to the board.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS.  REARDON agreed  with Chair  Murkowski's understanding.   She                                                               
surmised  that the  policy  question is  whether  to delegate  or                                                               
designate a denial  or whether such a decision should  be made by                                                               
the board itself.  She pointed  out that the boards don't have to                                                               
delegate or designate these decisions.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ROKEBERG  maintained  his objection  because  the                                                               
language is  adequate and  waiting for  an actual  board meetings                                                               
could take  some time.   The designee  of the board  is specified                                                               
because the [denial] is an administrative function.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MURKOWSKI asked if the  sponsor, having heard Ms. Reardon's                                                               
comments, had anything to add.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR OLSON acknowledged that  Representative Rokeberg has some                                                               
valid  concerns.   However,  deletion  of  the language  "or  its                                                           
designee"  moves away  from frivolous  rejections and  allows the                                                           
board to make  the decision for the refusal.   Although the board                                                               
holds   quarterly  meetings,   there  are   provisions  to   hold                                                               
teleconferences when  someone feels strongly that  someone should                                                               
be  refused.     The  difficulty  with   [waiting  for  quarterly                                                               
meetings]  is  that there  is  a  period  of  time in  which  the                                                               
applicant  or permittee  isn't of  use to  anyone because  of the                                                               
inability to  work and thus  is an  added burden on  the facility                                                               
with which the individual works.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
The committee  took an  at-ease in order  for Chair  Murkowski to                                                               
pass the gavel to Vice Chair Halcro.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
VICE  CHAIR  HALCRO  asked  Senator Olson  if  he  supported  the                                                               
deletion of the language "or its designee" from the legislation.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR OLSON replied yes.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 2260                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ROKEBERG  pointed  out that  a  telephonic  board                                                               
meeting would  be required for a  60-day extension.  He  asked if                                                               
this board can  take action on a telephonic basis  when the issue                                                               
is a refusal of a permit.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. REARDON replied  yes.  In further  response to Representative                                                               
Rokeberg,  Ms. Reardon  said that  she was  comfortable with  the                                                               
removal of the aforementioned language.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ROKEBERG  asked  if  Ms. Reardon  would  like  to                                                               
provide the  drafter freedom  to craft  the language  rather than                                                               
having a limited amendment.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. REARDON  said she  wasn't sure what  the language  would look                                                               
like.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
TAPE 02-68, SIDE B                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS.  REARDON expressed  concern that  if language  describing the                                                               
permit  denial process  is inserted,  there  could be  unforeseen                                                               
consequences.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ROKEBERG removed his  objection but maintained his                                                               
discomfort with  the language,  which he  said should  be cleaned                                                               
up.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
There being no objection, Amendment 1 was adopted.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Number 2327                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MEYER  moved to report  HCS CSSB 274,  Version 22-                                                               
LS1393\L, Lauterbach,  4/29/03, as amended out  of committee with                                                               
individual  recommendations  and  the  accompanying  zero  fiscal                                                               
note.  There  being no objection, HCS CSSB  274(L&C) was reported                                                               
from the House Labor and Commerce Standing Committee.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                

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